Enough said. I have the Ultra Mag, same bow but the limbs have carbon in them. The thing that amazes me the most about these bows is this. If you compare the numbers to any of Hoyt's more top end bows, they are very comparible. We are getting pretty much the same performance at a fraction of the expense. We just don't have all the bells and whistles. Same cams, same cables, same strings, same deminions, same IBO speed, well, pretty close, within like 10 FPS, which is nothing to worry about in my book.