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Old 03-29-2005 | 08:13 AM
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Hey Rob,

I would have to disagree with you on the shot placement of that Charging Grizz. I think a forehead shot on a Grizz that is charging you from less than 20 feet is an excellent shot!
How can you think a forehead shot on a chargeing bear is a "excelent" shot????? You've clearly stated it "doesn't work"!!! "I" clearly stated that NO cal. will penetrate a bears shull with a glanceing blow, in fact i stated it more than once!! I guess you missed that part in my last two post?


I never mentioned what kind of bullet they were using in the 375,
NO you didn't tell us what bullet he was useing, so what bullet was it?????? I think you will find a 30 cal. 200 NP will "penetrate" as much or MORE than a 375 300 grain soft point, so my claim stands!! TRY it for yourself, i have!! The small diameter 30 cal. has the advantage!!

Also,

Have you ever shot anything tough like a thicker steel plate with a 375???? Try it some time, and then shoot it with a 30cal. 200 NP.. Also try a 7 mag. with a 175 NP! A bears skull isn't steel, but maybe ?? it will help you to understand what i'm talking about. The 375 may give a bigger dent, but the 30 and 7 will pot mark the steel, they will "penetrate" better. (penetration = broken bones!!)


There is no way that you could have broken BOTH of that bears shoulders from that angle, no matter what gun you were using.
NO you can't break both shoulders of a chargeing grizzly, but you CAN break it's back!!!! AND, a "dazed" bear at 20' that you have time to "shoot a couple more times" ?????????????? That's where the "poor" shooting REALLY started!!! IF you don't have good shooting skills it doesn't matter what rifle or cal. you have!!!!


Good shooting skills go by the way side when you are placed in this situatuion.
That's the most important part of all!! Your story "proves" it, as they didn't get the job done!!


And as for YOUR experience, I seriously doubt that in all your years of hunting bear that you have EVER been in this situation!
As for my experience, i'm NOT going to sit here and puff my chest out and get into a pissing match with anyone, but i will say i have went in after several wounded brown bears, and i have been involved in a brown bear charge. Like i said in my "last" post, i'm speaking from expierence.

Anyway, have a nice day and that's all i have to say about this....

Drilling Man
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