My thought exactly Just got my Nitros yesterday but my gun is in the shop getting tapped for the Holo sight. I sure wish I'd gone to Rhino/Nitro combination long time a go. Through my 870 I've had 279 in a 12" @ 40 (clean/polished barrel) and 247 hits @ 40 after shooting a few other loads through the gun. Being able to throw a good pattern 40 to 50 yards doesn't mean I have to shoot that far, I always want to call the turkeys into my kill zone (25 to 30 yards) but it doesn't always work out that way every time. It's real nice knowing I have the ability to make a clean kill when the kill zone is stretched out Congratulation on the Rhino and the sweet pattern you're throwing. Good luck this year and keep it safe