I'll have to see if he wont bring one up this fall. It looks like he's coming up to hunt and the group on base is working with him to come in and "hang out" for awhile. I would say most of us are trad or some are flurting with it anyways. His cousin lives up here and works on the base I was serving on, go figure I never knew till this summer, almost 3 years after my ETS about this.