If you like that pattern antler addict just wait until you buy a box of the Nitro-Hevi shot brand from Ray, you can get a 2 1/2 oz load of 5's, I have a BPS 10 ga and thats what I shoot, I can put an average of 240 shot in a 11"x19" turkey target at 46 yards with the 5's, no telling what his 4x5x7's would do.