about five years ago, home from the navy for a bowhunt in pa, I had my chance at a true monster. Had seen the biggest bucks of my life on this one property consistently and that is what led me to this one patch of woods, a giant 10 pt nontypical that I would say would score in the 180's. at the time at least, a state record. I was set up and had a hot yearling come by me on an atv trail. I heard a grunt, and just grabbed my bow and stood. he came down like he didn't have a care in the world. It wasn't the same buck I had seen earlier, but still the biggest I had ever had in range. he posed for me twice...once at a now known 30 yds and again at about 25. he was sooo big (about 230 live weight), that I missed judged him to be five to seven yards closer and pulled the release. shot right under him. he jumped and then walked straight away from me offering no follow up shot. I was so badly shaken afterward. I had no idea how big he was until afterwards because it happened all so fast. he was about a 150 class eight. I shot a real nice clean (albeit small) eight the next day from the same stand at five yards. it was the fourth day of my five day visit and I was happy with it. he appeared in peterson's bowhunting readers shots.