Sometimes thats what concerns me is hunters that are unexperienced in bear encounters and when a griz comes in and bluffs at full speed towards you and then retreats back and then does this another time or two and why is she/he doing this? There is a reason for it, but those that are not familiar with bear encounters will shoot and then ask questions later. I think some people in here watch too much Hollywood and believe that they can make a killing shot at a charging griz in the kill zone before it reaches them, the adrelian alone will keep the beast alive long enough, even with its heart blown out to consume your inerds. I am not talking about some Alaskan Brown bear eating salmon but I am talking about the beast that is like the great white shark of the land, "The mountain griz". Usually a pistol gives the individual confidence, but in realility, it happens so fast that really does one have a chance to react. Have you ever step on a pile of griz crap while trecking in prior to dark-thirty? I do it almost every year. I am am firm believer in the use of bear spray expecially in the spring as I know for a fact that it works on cow moose as I got between one and her calf that I didn't realize. Also, Its because of non-residents shooting grizzlies up here thinking there blackies that we have to take an idenification test in order to obtain a stamp. If you do shoot a griz here in the states it had better have powder burns on it, Friend of mine shot a griz after the second lunge with a 7 mag at point blank range and the feds came out and determined that it was a justifiable shooting due to the powder burns. Sometimes its justifiable but mostly the're shot out of an individuals fear, sorry to vent, but its just a touchey subject with me and just remember its us invading there space. [:@] Bobby