Thank you Sylvan,
I appreciate your example and am willing to accept that my estimation of our herds ratio is inaccurate even when factoring out the yearling bucks whose sex isn't identifiable in the first hunting season of their lives.It is tough to debate the biological and mathmatical reality.
Where I am challenged locally is in my actual observation,with either the viewing of deer in fields in late summer and early fall or in the hunting seasons when I am in mountains and woods on average of 20 days ayear.I witness plenty of undisturbed deer each year and never see ratio's that support the mathmatical realities of how it should be.
I am going to start keeping a log of my observations noting the number of does,bucks and yearlings I see.Trying to figure out the many variables that influence these things I find difficult,the disproportionate harvest of 11/2 year old bucks,a bear and coyote population that is significantly higher than it has ever been,an over browsed forest where there is very little undergrowth and security cover,the sub development sprawl that has so much of the deer population low in unhuntable area's.All of these things contribute to a more difficult deer hunting experience.
I have been very fortunate to have hunted whitetails in another state for many years and because these deer have cover and the hunting pressure is so much lower and you only get one tag and it is an either sex tag their ratio's are seemingly much more closely balanced.The competition for breeding is so much more fierce because of the percentage of older class bucks that are in the herd.The scraping activity and aggressive rubbing activity is pronounced and ratttling and grunting are very effective.
I have years where scouting and hunting locally where I cover many miles of ground on various mountains and hunting lands and see next to no scraping activity.My opinion as to why that is is that there is very little competition for breeding,that whatever our ratio's are they are not close enough to illicit natural breeding behavior.