Hello tocs,
Sorry for miss identifying you. Anyway, I live in New York as well and I was aware that you were referring to NY. The numbers I quoted are accurate even for your area. If you accept that the average adult doe gives birth to 1 buck and 1 doe in the spring time, and non hunting mortality is roughly equal between doe and buck then it is mathmatically not possible to have doe:buck ratios of 12:1 at the beginning of hunting season. My last post in the thread Would you support a doe only season... gives a better explination of what I am talking about. Take a look. The numbers are not my opinion they are generated from computer models.

http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=991962&mpage=6

Just for fun lets say in your immediate hunting area there were 20 doe (10 adults and 10 youngins). All the buck even the button buck were shot off last season. That makes the doe:buck ratio 20:0 or infinite to 1. Assuming 1 buck and 1 doe offspring per adult doe recruits 10 more doe and 10 buck into your area. Thats a doe:buck ratio of 30:10 or 3:1. Now seeing we're just playing around lets say that you only shoot antlered deer but lets also say the adult females get impregnated by some roving bucks in your area for a good time. By next hunting season you will have a population of 50 doe (30 adults & 20 youngins) and 20 buck(10 antlered and 10 buttons) Thats a doe:buck ratio of 2.5:1 at the beginning of hunting season. If all the antlered deer are killed in hunting season and no doe the doe:buck ratio rises to 50:10 or 5:1 by the end of the seson. By spring however it is back to under 3 to 1. This gets to be a pain and thats where the computer comes in but I think you are starting to get the idea. Even if you shoot all the antlered buck and let all the doe go you don't get over 3:1 doe to buck ratio. The computer models take a lot of other factors into account as well but no matter how you run them at the beggining of hunting season a 12:1 doe:buck ratio just isn't possible. In fact 3 to 1 would be unrealistically high.