RE: Hunting gun groups...
A couple of things:
1. For "Hunting gun groups", I'd say if you can keep all your shots on a paper plate at 150 yards, you'll be in great shape 95% of the time.
2. I also agree with Big Country in that for most of us here (guys a little more serious than the average gun fella), we like to do what we can to shoot those tiny little groups off the bench.
Shooting and hunting are two different animals in my opinion.