Oh, absolutely, submoa shooters are hard to find with factory ammo. But this is a "guns" page, and not a hunting page, so talking about it and striving for it is ok in my book. Now for hunting, I got a sluggun that is a 2.5MOA shooter, a 7400 that is a 1.7MOA shooter, and a medallion that is a 1.2MOA shooter. These are the guns I used the most. But this is a hunting issue, not a guns issue. For going to the range, I got a 300RUM that is a true .75MOA shooter, and a sako 75 that is a .9MOA shooter.