I well take a lot of **** for this one but look at the charles daly mauser. I got one 3 weeks ago and i was impressed with this gun out of the box with factory ammo shot less than 1 inch at 100 yards. I will not nock the ruger I have one of them to dam good gun. But the mauser is about $150.00 cheaper. Remmys have had some problems with quatly for the past few years. If you want a remmington get a good used one you will be better off. just my thought hope this helps