id agree if that was 20 yards id keep tinkering around....20 yards thats a dead bird....but by 30+ that pattern might not kill the bird...trial and error.....its what its all about when it comes to patterning.....20yards a good turkey pattern will mess the target up pretty bad....id keep searching....unless you know you can get them within 30yds.......i personally like more confidance in my pattern then that.....