I saw 13 in the spine and brain,that will kill him DEAD. although I would like to see a lot more at 20 yards. how did you do at 30 yards,or did you try ?

try some Winchester # 6 copper plated in the 3". try at 20 30 and 35 yards. 35 is as far as Iwill shoot one. besides it's all about getting them in close.