LBR come on and the "other archery" folks aren't out for the money. a friend of mine is a bowtech dealer and honestly they are very nice bows but when i found out how much they were i about fell out! and look at all the accessorys! i still hunt with my old jennings carbon extreme even though some say man thats old !
It's all about money no matter what the weapon or even land issues.
The question was "and just who's getting the money?" I answered. For the most part it is all about the money, for most manufacturers. Money makes the decisions, not conservation or the will of the people. That's just wrong.
Actually it's not as easy as some make out. this year my son wanted to take my horton hunter supreme and in the end he didnt because i had a accuracy problem. it's solved but you still must be aware of distance. yeah in time i will get him a bow but not until he slows down on his growing.
You have to be aware of yardage beyond a certain point. Practically anyone with the strength to hold a crossbow and pull the trigger can be hitting a 6" spot at 15 yds in less than an hour. A minimum of intelligence is required to adjust the sights. If it's not easier, why have these weapons generally been reserved for the disabled, elderly, and handicapped?
Now brother this statement really can get my blood going. now i hunt with a variety of weapons including a crossbow and yep a bow. i prefer gun but it doesnt matter.
but this thought that a bowhunter is a better hunter or spends more time in the woods is pure dog feces!I would bet i spend more time than 98% of the folks on here in the woods . i hate putting folks into catagorys based on what they hunt with or assuming because someone hunts with something automatically makes them something they are not!
I know some that hunt with bows that i would not even think about on my club. why?
i have found their animals they wounded and didnt recover in the past. i got mad and gave them the boot!
Now do i condemn people that hunt with bows ? no i would be slapping myself.
That is not what I said or even implied. A crossbow is not a bow, period, and should not get an open pass into a season that was fought for by bowhunters. If someone wants to use one during primitive weapons or gun season, I have no problems at all with that.
But as to the hunting with a crossbow during "archery season" i agree!
It does take skill and is not as easy as people think.
My solution to this is just to say there are two seasons bow and crossbow that run the same amount of time and dates!
Again, why were these weapons reserved for those with disabilities in the past? I don't have a problem with a crossbow season either, but it should run concurrent with primitive weapons/muzzleloader/gun season.
Really i have 2100 acres that is all private now if i am hunting during a "archery " season with a crossbow who does it hurt?
Nobody on here cause nobody on here can be on my preserve!
Great--I'm jealous. So, since you have your own private preserve to hunt on, everyone else (most much less fortunate as far as hunting spots go) should have to go along with you because it's not having any effect on you? Just tough luck for the rest of us that will be impacted by it?
I just think some folks are so ate up with themselves prefering a traditional bow that they are blind to others!
That's probably true in some cases, but not with me, and I am sure it's not with Arthur or Arrowsmit either. I don't judge a person by what weapon they hunt with--every other hunter I know, even those that shoot traditional bows, also hunt with guns and/or muzzleloaders--they just don't use them during bow season.
I think there are MUCH bigger issues threatening hunting than the use of crossbows.
Hey think IF it does get more people into the woods then the hunting community as a whole is MUCH stronger! it is hard to fight a army of hunters no matter what they carry!
I am sure there are other problems, but that doesn't make this one any less of a problem. My opinion is, for the most part, that many of those who have never bothered to try bowhunting but will run to the store and get a crossbow if it's allowed during bowseason are not the ones that are going to bother spending any of their precious time fighting for our rights. It takes a certain type of person to dedicate themselves and spend the time it takes to become proficeient with a bow. Those tend to be the movers and shakers, not the ones that will take the easiest route possible.
But hey we can fight about this stupid issue and someday find ourselves discussing what happened ? how did they get the ban on hunting?
Yep, or we may be discussing how we used to have such nice, long archery seasons, and how tough it is to do any good with a bow when the season only runs for a week or two.
A few similarities between crossbows and muzzleloaders, and even single-shot rifles.
They can be used with an open sight or a scope.
They are loaded and ready to shoot as soon as you get to your spot.
They are fired, not released, using a trigger.
They can be propped up/rested.
They require very little physical strength to operate.
You're sitting there in the stand, weapon locked and loaded. You see that animal coming into range. Raise weapon to your shoulder, cheek down on the stock, find your aim point in the scope, flip off the safety, aim, pull the trigger.
This statement could be applied to a rifle, muzzleloader, or crossbow equally. You could add "prop it up on the gun rest" to Art's statement also.
They require little knowledge to operate accurately.
None of them are a bow. As I said before, you can get a conversion kit for a Ruger 10/.22 so it will fire bolts. Does that make it a bow too?
I agree with Arthur--the weapons have basically negated the original spirit of the archery season--money being the primary drive behind this, and folks wanting it as easy as possible--they are the ones that provide the money. Archery season isn't (or at least wasn't) about how many animals you could kill, or how easy you could make it--it was for the challenge, and for those that love the sport. I can't help but wonder if Fred Bear and other pioneers of the compound bow would have done anything differently if they had known where it was going to lead.
Chad