NY, QDM, does work if properly applied. There are alot of factors involved with proper QDM. You must have a positive, and determined attitude, in order to succed in QDM. Herd genectics, quality food sources, and herd manegement, are major factors in having excellent QDM. After my move, I plan on doing some QDM on my family land. I have been reading many articles and a book called "Grow Em Right" , which have pointed me in the direction of proper manegement. It can be done, and Pa and NY should look into these practices