even in the day when overdraws where all the rage I only found that I liked them to reduce arrow spine for longer draw lengths. I still know guys who are 31+ draw lengths and they still use them to just knock down a few notches in arrow spine. Other than that I agree with the new carbons they are more or less becoming a thing of the past except for the shorter 1" models which don't seem to be that bad for the average shooter to handle.