chopper69, I just recieved my tag for 2005 in unit 60 (Thorofare area). I applied in the "special" draw which just means you pay double the price but have a very good chance of drawing. This year my outfitter drew 75% of their applications. They said some years it will be down around 60% which is still good. The regular draw has about a 20% draw rate. Be prepared to pay the piper though. The special draw tag runs $893 this year. The regular elk tag runs $493.