I won't get into the back and forth bickering, but I have a Vangaurd (no longer a Wal-Mart gun) that shoots better than any rifle in my collection. Better than Remington,Winchester and a Ruger. I have an A-Bolt and I like it alot, but I can't make a comparison because its a 22lr. Face it guys, most any rifle made today will outshoot you and me.