it's tough, i want to take a 140 inch buck and if i hunted hard and had a little luch i could do that as well as hunt turkeys, hogs, and great fishing. it really is different than it was say 20 years ago where if you were a teacher-coach as i am i would have unlimited access to all kinds of hunting and fishing. all the good places are leases or paid hunts. it sucks but it is eather join or hunt public land where you will more than likely see more humans than deer.