Honestly, I think Cobra has better quality stuff than people give them credit for. Last year I had the Mini Venom 3 pin fiber sight from them and the fiber/pin quality was as good if not better than the copper john I have now and the entire sight was machined from aluminum. You can pick them up for anywhere from $20-$30 new on ebay now and will probably recommend for my father to get one on his new budget setup. They aren't the "cool" thing though so that is probably why we don't hear more about them.