glad I could help...I am no pro either and to heck with tying for show...Dunno what drove me to make that frog...guess I was insane or screw in the brain one nite LOL! Congrats to finishing a couple. To get them thicker (if I understand what you mean by that), pack them tighter, also more smaller clumps is better then more bigger clumps as you can pack it tighter! In Chris's vid he has a scweet little hair packer...its basically a V piece of meatal, on the open it it starts to wrap around and is then cut off. In that cutt of section there is a groove on both sides, this is where your hooks sits. Be sure to do a couple half hitchs and some head cement (do the glue after you pack), and pack that sucker tight! Next get a couple double edge razors for trimmin. A good pair of curved siccors will help also in trouble spots or with trouble hair....my site doesnt have squat for fishn flys, I do have some fish and the rest is hunting/nature pics. I wish I had the desire to put more on there, just dont have much that I like as far as pics are concerned. I guess I can humor the thought and get more fishn stuff on there, I know I have the spot. As for puttin flies ont here the 2 links earlier are MUUUCH better then I could ever do! Also get a bottle of Daves Fleximent. Coat the bottom of your hair flys with it so as to keep them from becoming waterloged as fast. You dont need to soak it in the stuff, just take your bodkin and smear some on the bottom, put it aside to try then go and rip some lips! Post some pics if ya can, if not shoot me an email.....here is my link.

http://www.geocities.com/tradbow007/...dventures.html