are you gluing your heads? ALso twist the bodys to see if they are tight. If they arent your flies will suffer the dread fall apart 'disease'<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>!

On spinning, evertime you finish a 'section' (top and bottom) you glue! Watch Chris and do what he does....also makes sure the tips dont get caught in your thread when you are wrapping..its easier to see after you trim but its HECK to pull out after you have trimmed and it looks like crap! Start with soemthing simple..like the yellow bodied bass 'gurgling syle plugs' with the red collar up front. You are actually spinning the hair around the hook where in the frog I was putting hair where I wanted it (ie grey on the bottom, didnt have white, and the goofy green color on top, then the yellow on top of the green. If you are going to put a spot, like the yellow, make sure you make the spot first either using your bodkin or your fingers. Reason, you dont want to trap hair! Its hard as heck to see the smaller clumps but LOOK HARD before you start trimming as they are easy as heck to find and almost look like sore spots after the finished project is done. If you are trimming and come on a trapped section, trim it immediatly. Chris didnt show this in his vid, just picked that one up. A little prevention is worth a lb of cure. In this case for your show flies when you get there, trying to get them the way you want! If you can, pick up a couple hair flys from a shop and mimick them! Poportions are the hardest thing to learn in fly tying.....learning how to use the equipment is the basics! Once you get that far, you are only limited to what you can conjure up. I will try and get Guys Dragon and Grayling hair flys on my site and post them for ya.....you talk nice LOL! Best of luck!