Well, sure has been interesting to read these posts. I'm not going to get into any arguments here (I hope), but all I can say is I've used Leupold scopes now for over
25years, and that first one is still in use without any problems (VX-II, 1-4x 20mm).
Not saying there aren't other good scopes out there, I kind of like Weaver also, but
if I want something I can COUNT ON, I'll stick with Leupold.