ok guys i wasnt gonna reply cause like i said everyone has their opinions but i think there might be a misconception about what i wrote or sounded like, but i feel i must reply.

some of you (not mentioning any names) feel that i am a cheap sucker and "am a ray of sunshine" to be around. ok, well what i wrote might sound (to me) that i am a miserable old fart and that i hate my job and i refuse to tip, well, the first part is not true, i love my job, i like what i do, and besides if i wasnt a "ray" to be around and if i was trying to "screw" people out of money, why am i still in business after 25 years in the same city of 80K population?, word travels fast you know!! But i must be doing something right. last people i saw not being a ray to be around and screw you out of money have left this town and moved to another city to pursure their "fly by night" carrer. now having said that, i will tell you that i used to tip where ever i went but i have stopped that, you know why. i have read Outdoor's reply and like what he said that tips are nice but NOT REQUIRED, but for some reason in "some" occupations, tips seem to be EXPECTED. why is this?? we all work, i am assuming anyways, and we for the most part, all of our jobs are preforming some kind of "service" for a "customer", so i ask, just because we are all not guides, waiter/waitresess, or whoever else expects a tip, why is it that we do not get tips too? i dont get it. are we not waiting/helping/guiding/working for people? what about the person works at McDonalds taking your order, they are waitng on you, take your order, bring you food to you, but we dont give them a tip, well why not???? opps, i forgot, what about the person behind the counter at McD's that cooked your burger, better tip them too!!!! oh man, i guess should tip the truck driver that delivered the food to the fast food joint cause without them i couldnt be eating my fries and big mac right now. i could go on, but i think you get the picture, just something for you to think about. i also like what liquidorange says at the end of his reply and he quotes " a tip should be a deserved part of the service not always mandatory". Now, back to something else someone wrote about people get below minimum wage because the tips make up for it, well i dont know how it works in the states, but where i live you "must" make the minimum wage, and tips are on top of that. to me, who would want to take a cut in wage because tips will make up for it???? i think they are losing money in my perspective, but hey, what do i know. i may be reading or interpurting that reply wrong, but i think if you have current set minimum wage, i thnk it is leagally wrong to pay them less than that, allthough i could be wrong on that. as you all know i own a construction company, once in a while we do out of town work, now lets say i send my guys to do a job, and i as allways, give them the company visa to pay for whatever, one being i pay for their meals. myself, and i think i am not alone on this but when the final meal bill comes to the table, there is a spot on the visa reciept that asks "tip", would you not be a little upset paying for a tip to a meal that you didnt even eat? of course it is up to my workers to leave a tip from thier own pocket if they so choose too. now i dont know if they leave a tip or not, but lets jst say they didnt, should the server now on the next day they return "spit" in thier food because thay didnt leave a tip?? i dont know maybe i am getting off subject now but as you can see there are a million of different factors out there on or about tipping.

in closing i would just like to say a couple of last remarks, first being to the one who thinks that i am not a ray to be around, i also see that apparently i do not treat waiter/waitresess nicely, well i must say that i do and i say my please and thank you's during my stay, and i am polite to everyone i deal with. On to another note, why say that using a waiter/waitress is not "fair" to compare to a guide??? last time i looked a JOB is a JOB is a JOB, but i might be wrong in that too cause a guide must be more of a JOB than a sever i guess, but to me they are JOBS!!!And lastly (for now anyways), like i have said before, i hope some people agree with me, and some will not, these are just our opinions, i just hope i shed a little "ray" to some of you that feel a "need" to tip only "some" people of "certain" occupations.

Thank You