Gosh fellas; I thought we shot these things for fun and enjoyment. I guess I have not gotten involved enough in the "politics of all this" to get that worked up. I also tend to stay away from competitions that spend more time figuring out how to make things difficult for the people trying to enjoy the sport. If traditional is that much trouble maybe I should cancel my order for the Lyman Great Plains and just keep shooting my Omega. Hopefully this is just a rare case of people that have had some differences that didn't come out good. I would rather read about shooting rather than listen to this kind of exchange. I like this site as it is generally active and interesting, this subject is and exception.