there is a couple videos out there (one on chris helm, he's da man!!!). Think the watts video series has them....that is how I learned. Did a 7 hook joineted leg frog that turned out great. Also Mr Lee lives here...dagnubit if I havent had the chance to meet him yet. Herd he is a master at it..have seen some of his stuff, great looking dragons, fish etc etc..all show stuff LOL I would post my picture but I think we gots a virus.....go figure, dont want to screw it up if we do!!! Keep your eyes out in the next couple days as I will post it once we get the puter fixed. Already have it scanned <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>!