I guess I should read all the posts more often, I've missed out on a lot with this thread.

I don't know Paul very well yet but I know the information he gives out to us on these boards that is.......well........uuuuuhhh.........FREE!!!!!... ......is absolutely accurate. Not only does it sound good when he writes it but it makes sense in the gaps I have in my knowledge and of course the ultimate is it actually works when you put that knowledge to work for you. And whenever it didn't work for me, the problem was my execution of it. Paul has to be on of the most most knowledgeable elk hunters I've seen. I think we can call him an expert and sleep fine at night. Looking forward to swapping some info with you Paul in SLC this year.

I've spoke with gselkhunter and I like his style of calling as well. He likes to be the thorn in the bulls side. He likes to irritate a bull so much that the bull has no choice but to come in and run off the young hot shot who insists on dogging the herd bull. I like it and usually am not so aggressive but this I'm going to give it a shot.