If your buying brass for your 223,and feel your being ripped off,then just a tho;ught. buy some once fired military brass.Its cheaper,and you know its good brass.Yes there is more work in reloading it with the primer pocket but you will be happier in the long run. Do thought make sure its all of the same man. for different comapnies brass has different volume capacities as does commerical. vangunsmith