Wow tying to get caught up on this post is like swatting black flies.

Do we understand that a healthy herd is determined more by the state of what's around the deer? Are their numbers impacting everything around them?

sometimes I think the complexities involved with the entire management of wildlife species is too much. It is therefore the individuals choice to turn away from these issues.

I'm curious, is everyone in favor of a balanced deer herd that is within reasonable agreement with the carrying capacity? We just don't agree on how this is to be achieved?

PA did not cave in to Insurance companies, timber etc so they could piss off their bread and butter, rather they took a chance that we could persuade our hunters to get with the times in order to save sport hunting and preserve the notion of the hunter as a conservationist. A large percentage of our hunters are ruining this so more support for birth control proponents. reduced deer numbers etc are going to happen because there are not enough hunters to stop it. if we don't adopt newer forms of thinking we are going to be extinct as a management tool.