In upstate Pa. there are a few hunters that are long distance shooters. I sat down with a father and son a few years back and asked a bunch of questions about their gear. The two that impressed me the most were a 50-30 and a 460-6.5. The 50-30 was a bench mounted canon with a 4" diameter barrel. He was their long distance man responsible for yardages from 800 plus. The 460-6.5 covered from 800 yards and in. They sit on top of a mountain and scout the opposite ridges and valley. Bunch of bucks tied up in that outfit.