The herd is not ruined, because private property owners would not let the slaughter continue on their land.The problem with any deer management plan is that you can not put a plan in place that blankets the whole state as if it were a table top.Here in northwest Pa the carrying capacity of the land is far higher than the forested central parts of the state.It does not take thirty to fifty acres to grow a two hundred pound whitetail.Gary Alt is not a fool, he has too much education to make the mistakes that were made here.If like he says the people above him did not back him thats politics .The doe slaughter that he put in place polarized him from many that thought he had a plan to make things better.Bigger bucks were supposed to replace seeing so many deer in a day of hunting.I will be the first to admit Dr alt said we needed to lower deer numbers and we have,but we didn't know the plan was to kill them all.