Lil off topic here but a thought come to mind. I dont know if anyone else here lives in Saratoga County along with me. Saratoga County for its size is the fastest growing area in the whole country the last i read. Anyone with any kind of acerage up to farmers are getting out of the business or just plain selling off to developers. Houses around here are already SOLD before they are even built. Deer habitat where i live is diminishing very fast. I am beginning to wonder if deer numbers are thought to be as big because deer are being pushed into smaller confinments of land. NY is a large agricultural state one of the biggest in the country but with time passing and farmers sons and daughters not taking over they are forced to sell there land. As time passes deer are gonna have to depend more on mothernature then farm lands for feed. What was there one year for them here wont be there for them in an upcoming year.... its only a matter of time. When I drive around you see woods here and there and its all getting developed... my point to having good forage for deer to make deer like IL, KS, ect... is also having a healthy habitat for them to live.