Most of the loggin roads around here are closed in General Season. The elk can become real scattered after the first day. Most of the units have little pockets where the elk hold up after being messed with. It is no "walk in the park" in this country. The land is large enough in most areas for the elk to get away from people if they really want to. Which unit are you hunting; 21, 21A, 28 ? Are you from Idaho?