BW could'nt have said it better myself. Most the time I'm positioning myself. I use very little shock calls, but use natural ones instead. stop and listen to all the crows next time you'll be suprised. I feel that the less impact you have the better off you are. Nothing urkes me more than some joker hooting up and down the road. Anyway, I don't call sometimes till late in the morning after I've made 6-7 small 50-100 yd moves, then when its just right hit him with a little simple calling and Sady bar the door! Anyone cal call a turkey, its when you can master maneuvering on one through the woods that you start killin.