CalNewbie: RE Journal of Wildlife Management brief. Reality check. Some of the folks reporting their experiences are saying elk are eradicated from some of their hunting areas. This doesn't gibe with "elk numbers increasing." Is the point that elk numbers are increasing . . . in places not frequented by wolves? This would, of course, be irrelevant and more than disingenuous on the part of the report to suggest otherwise. Also, if the wolves are less successful when Elk are healthier, does this mean less elk are killed or that the wolves just have to work harder for their meal? Nothing I heard of this report gave me comfort. Additionally, the dates discussed seemed to have been 1997 and 1998, fully six years ago.

I admit I know precious little about this topic. I'm trying to find out about it. I stirred up this trouble because I had read on another forem that the sky was falling, the wolf was going to destroy elk hunting. I wanted to get information and find out what people here knew. So far I am not persuaded that the wolves are good in any sense, and certainly not good without management. On the topic of management, I'm not sure what good hunting wolves as predators will do if they are as stand offish as some have said they are.