andy o, was this guide the owner of the guide service? If so he was already getting a good price. Most guides who work for someone make a meager living. They usually get some pocket money plus room and board. Alot of them rely heavily on tips. It is like being a waitress. The closest I have ever come to getting a guide was hiring a charter boat captain for salmon fishing. It cost 400 for the day. He put me into a bunch of fish and I gave him a 100 bill at the end of the day. If and when I ever use him again you can bet that he will remember that I am a tipper and go the extra length the next time.