Thanks for all the input. I shot for the first time. Entirely new setup. I went with the Ultrasport it just felt better. The release will take some getting use to. Once it was all set up draw length, peep etc.. It was time to move to the actual shooting with a release. The salesman/pro at the shop was impressed with the fact I insisted on shooting my first six arrows with my eyes closed just to get the feel of the release.( Learned that right here from you folks) All six hit the paper and 5 were in the rings just barely but in the rings. Asked why I insisted and I told him I wanted to just get the feel for the setup and release. He laughed as he said the form was great and he could tell I was in a state of total relaxation the first few shots as he could see my head twitch from surprise when the release let go of the loop. We moved onto some regular shooting. 90% of the arrows were in the rings including one group of 2 1/2 inch apart in the bullseye. A bit sore in the shoulder and probably shot one group of 3 to many. The position of the hand and fingers with the release versus shooting fingers works some different muscles and concomminant ones in different positions. Overall I like it but it will take a bit to get use to. I'll be back next weekend to fine tune the 20yd pin and shoot somemore.