well NC hunter..thats where you and I can agree to disagree..You couldnt tie me to a treestand and keep me there..Bait or no bait. My feeling are anyone can sit in a treestand and sooner or later something is going to walk by. I admire the fact you do it for your daughters. But for me,I'm a spot and stalk hunter,and a still hunter.. Meaning I either get on a ridge and spot some elk or deer and depending on the terrain I either go after them or I watch for them to bed and then put the stalk on them. Or I move through the woods super slow and watch for game. This is by no means an easy way to hunt. To me it is way more fun though than sitting in a tree. You should try it sometime. My only advice is be aggressive and constantly check the wind.. I will go through 2 windicator bottles in one day of hunting. I just refill them with flour. Good luck