deer drives all the way for this one....if you can set them up in this area to work and be safe.....once hunting season is on its rare to see deer around here on stand because presure is so high and the wood lots arent huge tracts...only safe place is in the thickets barely moving.....heck...ive spotted them from the road in thickets...they have a heck of a way to hide though....and hunting the small tracts of land is hard....hard to get access to....once you gain permission its tough to get in a good spot without scarring everything on the way in..wind shifts once the deer are gone....its tough....i started driving deer with my buddys last year.....and without driving them out we would probably rarely take a deer.....when deer arent moving you have to make them move if you want to harvest one....dont get me wrong....killing isnt everything in hunting...but sitting on stand all season to see nothing in the freezing cold isnt all that fun after so long.....you might try still hunting if you dont have anyone to hunt with you to push or drive them...just sneak through where they hide out reaaaaaaaalllllly slowly, quietly and cautiously...always on alert...moving slooooowly is key....a very planned out step at a time...looking around after every step..once they think something is coming they will usually stand up and look around....thats your shot....gota be quick on your feet...or if they are already up and moving you will catch them...if your seeing tails or running deer your moving too fast or too loud....wet days are nice to still hunt....i never mastered it myself....read a good bit about it...and im going to start using it more...next year ill be in college along with all my friends...so chances are we wont get to drive together every day....still hunting will work just as good if you know where the deer are hiding.....baiting is illegal here.....im sure it wouldnt help...pressure is unreal.....they hide in every nuck and cranny and behind every tree...i know how your feeling...you know the deer are there....they cant dissappear...they just dont wanna come out n play with the big boys...