email me, i will not give you my exact hunting area and i will not put the info on the board, but i can give you some pointers. i have hunted this area a few times with guys who have hunted it many years.

you don't need an outfiter. you do need to be in shape, climbing 500 vertical feet will kick your butt at 8500 feet even if you can run a 10k in illinois.

brian