These hunting shows are all starting to get less and less instructive and more about the kill. My son is now 12 years old and has hunted with me for 3 years. This year was his 1st to hunt alone and shot his 3rd deer, a doe. To this date he has never had the opportunity to harvest a buck of any size. Early this season while I was still hesitant letting him hunt in a stand by himself, we had a spike come into a foodplot which my son was wanting to take being his 1st time seeing a buck in the wild. I would not let him take this deer and he was not a happy camper for the rest of the hunt. On the way home he said to me, " you know I'm glad I didn't shoot that little spike". That made me so proud that I knew then that he gained so much more by not shooting than if he did. I have a friend that dog hunts on a lease close to where we hunt. I hear some of the most sickening stories there are. They let these young hunters shoot at running deer, having no idea of shot placement. They can be running straight away, it doesn't matter, just let the lead fly. These youngsters are really learning alot from this. Sometimes, even myself, find that a hunt is sometimes more successful by passing a shot than taking one. I used to be a #'s hunter when I was young but it wasn't until I started passing shots did I really understand what its all about. Just being there in their environment is enough to make it satisfying. We don't have the quality hunting that most of you enjoy. I have only killed a handful of rack bucks in my 20 years of hunting. On 1 hunt this year I let 2 basket rack 6 pointers walk, these would have been about the 4th and 5th best deer of my life. Well I've rambled enough but it just makes me sick to think about the lessons that some of these children are learning about hunting.