The guys at the NWTF website are raving about them. Supposed to be about the best thing going right now. I took their advice and ordered some cannon country calls. They really raved about them in the past. Bought two diaphragm calls, and they sounded great. Daggone if they didn't go out of business a few weeks ago. I must have got some of the last few that were made. Might have to give Hooks a try next year if they are still around.