my friends and i got out and done some shooting yesterday. After all thoes bads shots we made this season we decided to do some practice while the image of that big buck was still clear . After the first few shots were fired from each gun we could see the problems some of us had, my brotherinlaws TC black Diamond had a lose base mount ,bobs knight was hitting 5 or 6 inches to the right after he had a atv wreck and mine was hitting a little low but still in the kill zone. The best worst shots were when we tried to hit a paper plate at a 100 yards free handed. Shooting from a bench using a vice is fine for setting the scope but try a few rounds standing with no rest and see how good your pattern is . I know that if i shoot at a deer over 40 yards or so i have to get some kind of rest or face a bad shot and the rest of the crowd done about the same. I tried some different bullets that were left from last season that one of the other shooters had ,they were the dead center bullets .I made one shot at a 4x4 target at 50 yards just to see were it hit then moved back to 100yards and tried it again ,i adjusted my scope and cleaned the barrel and shot a few more just to make sure i was on target then after cleaning again we moved back a little more.This time after everone was convinced they could make the shot at a 100 we tried to do it at 200 using the rest on the table ,we done fair but free handed we need help bad. The dead center bullets i tried done very well and i hit a paper plate 3 shots in a row with about a 6 in group at 200 with the help of the shooting vice without it i was only able to hit the plywood about a foot away from the target. LOOKS LIKE A LONG SUMMER OF PRACTICE SHOOTING COMING UP, I CAN'T WAIT !