RAY i wish you luck doing your bow drives in the fall. the chiggers and ticks will be carrying you out of the woods before you even see a deer. my buddies gun club hunt in stands till 9 am and then will do drives till lunch time ,they then drive a little after lunch then its back in the stand for 3:30 pm. that sounds like a fair way of doing things at least on opening day when the majority of us can get off work to hunt.there are also some rivalry problems and shinaniggens going on between the clubs also. one club was out there cutting down trees on the fire cuts with a chain saw to limit the use of the other club who illegally liked to use atv-s in the pines to drop guys off for the drives. the game warden is still looking for those guys but i think they know who. most of clubs i see in zone 21 are at least 30 to 40 members. that one club alone off 539 by the old railroad tracks must have 30 plus bucks hanging every year during the buckshot season. i pulled in to the camp one year and took photos. the members did look happy with the grill fired up and keg of beer. one year one of the clubs lined up on rt 72 and attempted to drive what seemed the whole piece clear to rt 70. there were guys lost all over and screaming for help. sounds like fun though. the reason you clubs think there are only a few pot hunters is because those one week out of a year deer hunters dont see me 30 feet up in the air with my tree lounge . id like to see the clubs down south more active with the deer herds. when was the last time they put out mineral licks or donated bags of seed tos re- plant the fields with something a little better than winter rye. i do this on a small scale. its nice to give back. .