Well in Ocean County there is Zones 18 and 21 and a little of 51 our club hunts 80% in 18 the rest in 21 no late season doe days here. We don't even get together for doe days in Dec. and until this year we only had 1 doe day in zone 18. We did have 1 really good drive this year and killed the most deer on 1 drive in the last 10 years, 4 (5 is the old record in 1978) and I believe the total for the year was 15 same as last year. Some of the bigger clubs can shoot 25 to 30 deer year after year after year on the same ground. I have hunted this area my whole life (since 10) I am now 40 and there is as many if not more deer to shoot in zone 18 than ever before. So the clubs have little effect on deer populations and only help the state succeed in there harvest goals. The only negative to the last few years is legalized baiting. We see alot less deer without bait than we did before it was legal. TRY NOT TO BE SO BITTER, STRENGTH IN UNITY