Aaaahhh, it's the TR Spokesperson BigBulls! [:@] He never said he was unhappy with the rest and that it was loud. I assure you that the TR DZ won't be heard by anyone that is standing beside the shooter. Test this by having anyone stand beside you and then tell you if they can possibly hear anything??? The "buzz" of the bow is heard over even the slightest amount of noise ANY falling rest would make. The Deerslayer suggestion is for the true gearheads that love to tinker and try to improve. I've had friends that shoot the DZ line the entire thing with fleece and everything else for NO reason other than just to do it. Please don't make THIS sound like an issue like you do with their all their sights.