Go find the cheap Winchester 45 grain hollow points. At GB they call them the white box winchesters. Walmart sells them in 40 packs. These shoot the best of all in the Handi rifle. It will shoot light bullets best because of the twist rate in the barrel. I have a new 223 Ultra but have not fired it yet. I had one before though and 1/2 inch groups with the right load is normal. My first one was stolen.