Hi deer4ager. I didnt want to make your post sound wrong, just the point that theres more to this than us guys can post as far as getting someone through it. Hope you didnt take offense.

I generally suggest the kit for one simple reason...its simple! The substitution of components for household recipes can be done, but I dont feel theyre as good, so I usually stick to the proven methods for the beginners. Those guys with 30 yrs experience will find the alternatives once they understand the process.

I used to find it easier to flesh after the salt had a chance to dry up the membranes, etc, but nowadays I just get them clean quickly before salting, and get them salted. Again, thats what those 30 years kinda teaches us. Good luck guys, either way you choose to go!

Jeff, sorry, Ill need to get into the habit of checking those PMs huh? hahaha Ill have a peek...