Stone316_74, I sure hope and pray the IDF&G is right, I do believe that is what they said to your friend, but I don't know if they are correct. I just hope that the rapid decline is because someone is shooting them, and not that they are just spreading out over a bigger area. Which therefore would appear to be less wolves. I know that in unit 51 this last year we had a wolf pack in the area. In years before we have seen a wolf here and there just passing through, but never just hanging around. But the good news is that the ranchers can now shoot them and in the near furtue we might be able to hunt them. That would be cool! Anyway enough about wolves, and on to bigger and better things like ELK!!!!! First off do you hunt turkey? I could be wrong because I don't (I want to) but I have been told that if you can call in a turkey you can call in an elk. And visa a versa. If you do call in turkeys can you use a diaphram mouth call. The only reason I ask is if you can then you can make any elk call you want to. Don't worry if you can't yet because their is plenty of time to buy one an learn to make simple elk sounds. Now you don't need to be able to bugle for a October hunt, it would help but not required. But you do need to make a lot of different cow calls. Such as a lost cow, or a calming social cow call saying hey its just me and everything is o.k., also a more excited cow call plus a few more. I don't know if you have seen elk nuts web site but let me tell you he knows his elk calls and elk. After you master a few cow calls. You can try to learn to do a young bull squeal, and a location bugle. You don't need to be perfect, because for october thats all you'll need. I have in my experience, found that with bull elk, before and after the rut they don't always sound the best or what I'll call the hollywood type bugle that everyone wants to hear. Last year in Oct, I called my bull into me out of very thick timeber, using both cow calls and light bugles, he sounded like a wimp bull but for the area he was almost a herd bull. Primos and Carlton both make some very good instructional videos that take you step by step with different types of calls. I would recomend this becase that way you can practice with them as you watch. Also there are some push me cow calls that they both make which are good. These can come in handy if a elk is moveing and you want to freeze it in its tracks. And if you use them over the top of another call then it sounds like more than one elk. This advice is just the tip of the iceburg so to speak with elk calling but it gives you a place to start. Ofcoures you also need to know when is the proper time to use them but I'll leave that for later. Let me know if and what calls you can use to make elk sounds then will go from there.

Elkcrazy8 at this point what else do you recomend for him, that needs to be said that I have forgot?